Sorry to hear about the pain and the bad experiences. But you're past the worst now. You did LL, and have already had your rods removed.
Take your own time; you deserve it.
Quote from: myloginacct on April 25, 2018, 04:25:27 PMSorry to hear about the pain and the bad experiences. But you're past the worst now. You did LL, and have already had your rods removed.
Take your own time; you deserve it.
Thanks for the inspiring words login. Really need it at this very moment. I can’t believe how fast time flies, and looking back I can still vividly remember the days leading up to my LL surgery and my lengthening phase. Now having this rods removed I do feel it will all be over very soon when I recover. After going through all this, I can’t see myself doing anymore elective surgeries. Unfortunately the lengthening has predisposed me to some mechanical alignment issues and chances of arthritis is higher compared to the average population. The doctor had suggested that the best way of addressing this would be to get standard ilizarov to align the mechanical stress...but in my mind I’m thinking there’s no way I’m undergoing this s*** again.
Also the physio I received did improve the pain, and perhaps it may resolve the chronic pain I feel daily. I’m hoping....
Pros:
1) tremendous boost in self esteem (x infinite times)
2) I never have to wear insoles for pure height increase. Although I’m planning on going to a professional orthotist to get insoles for my flat foot and the leg length discrepancies. I now have the chance of putting insoles for pure medical and comfort.
3) can dress however I want to. Hell I even wear flip flops or barefoot when the average height is 9 cm above me.
4)possibility of making some rare individuals function better with deformities
Cons:
1) The process itself involving exposure to a lot of radiation, being inactive, drug and possible addiction, multiple surgeries and acumalated trauma
2) Extremely long and tedious procedure which could lead to psychological issues (years)
3) fking price and the opportunity cost of resources , time and health
4)toll on the atheletic ability, perhaps due to biomenchqnical change or stretched muscles/nerves/skin and/or blood vessels. Combination of all?
5) many things could go wrong , you just be aware of these by going through the forum and take my previous for example, some life threatening too
6) weird proportion like femur:tibia, upper body:lower body, or even the height just not overall suiting the body
7) Pain,Pain,pain
8)changes in axial alignment for the worse
9) permanent scars
End of the day, be realistic on why you want CLL!
(P.s m pretty sure these have been menti9ned before but Im too bloody bored atm so I thought I’d write this from my Experience. I think I’ll finally make a move on downloading pubg and see the hype surrounding it)
Thanks for the writeup, good to hear your overall perspective. Like you said, it's finally over, time to recover!
Quote from: Microbe on April 25, 2018, 03:41:07 PMYes my doctor pretty much said that timing is not really crucial. He mentioned the downsides of keeping the nail are risk of fracture below the nail, complications arising from these fractures, and also the inability to have mri with the nails inside. This along with paleys recommendation of having magnets exposed to body fluids made me decide to heave the rods out. I’m feeling much better right now and interacting with the staff has helped my pain tremendously, along with the use of painkillers. So yes I’m happy to have the nail removed. I can have a peace of mind walking through some airports without having the nails detected.
Hi Microbe, I hope you are doing well after rod removals. I would like to know how the implants were detected. Some says preciese 2 are not detected since they are non ferrus.
Please share your experience.
Thank you
Quote from: Mariobro on April 25, 2018, 06:49:04 PMHi Microbe, I hope you are doing well after rod removals. I would like to know how the implants were detected. Some says preciese 2 are not detected since they are non ferrus.
Please share your experience.
Thank you
Hey Mariobro
Thanks , atm I’m struggling with body movements on the bed, sore back and when I try to sit up there is N immense uncomfortable pressure on my bum and incision sites.
My experience with certain airports have been interesting. In my home country which I traveled on multiple occasions had detected my nail with the sensor the first time I left that airport with my rods. However after that ocaasion it never detected the rods again. Rather strange?
Couple of airports I regularly travel to always detect my rods. The rest of the airports don’t detect. In the u.s I always opt for a person to physically screen me.
Edit: I’m talking about those handheld metal detectors that are able to detect the nails.
hi microbe
been following your thread. please try and remember that without the surgery you would not have introspected these things. self loathing for decades of your life can also have an accumulated effect on every aspect of your life which can't even fathom looking ahead. but looking back you can see how much of your life was wasted away with self loathing thoughts.
maybe this surgery finally stopped you from self loathing? i would call that a win if you are reasonably physically functional to live a fulfilling life.
i firmly believe this operation should not be sought after for anything tangible (like girls, jobs, etc.) this operation is basically an extremely strong therapy to stop hating yourself.
i wish i had the opportunity and sense to undergo real psychotherapy at a young age instead of this. if anyone reading this is very young, please stop bombarding yourself with LL information to the point where you cannot imagine a life without getting LL. instead spend some time getting psychotherapy to improve body image. if it does not work, LL is always there.
Quote from: fokid on April 25, 2018, 07:12:53 PMhi microbe
been following your thread. please try and remember that without the surgery you would not have introspected these things. self loathing for decades of your life can also have an accumulated effect on every aspect of your life which can't even fathom looking ahead. but looking back you can see how much of your life was wasted away with self loathing thoughts.
maybe this surgery finally stopped you from self loathing? i would call that a win if you are reasonably physically functional to live a fulfilling life.
i firmly believe this operation should not be sought after for anything tangible (like girls, jobs, etc.) this operation is basically an extremely strong therapy to stop hating yourself.
i wish i had the opportunity and sense to undergo real psychotherapy at a young age instead of this. if anyone reading this is very young, please stop bombarding yourself with LL information to the point where you cannot imagine a life without getting LL. instead spend some time getting psychotherapy to improve body image. if it does not work, LL is always there.
Fokid thanks for the comment I do agree on trying alternative options before dwelling and undergoing LL surgery. Perhaps it could’ve worked for me if I did try psychotherapy, honestly I did consider this but felt uncomfortable talking to someone about the insecurities of my height. This feeling had prevented me from seeking external help from others. it doesn’t really help when you have a feeling that you’re objectively short. The more I dwelled into this issue I basically barred my thoughts of trying alternate options and just dwelled majority of my time on LL. Growing up being called short names does extremely damage self esteem and for me it was one of the two biggest obstacles in life so far, with the other being the death of a family member at a young age. I reckon being mocked for being objectively short from the general population may justify the reason, perhaps to recover from the past abuse and breaking free from this obstacle. But then as I had mentioned in one of my previous posts, I’ve seen objectively short people living life to the fullest. Good post from you Fokid!
keep strong man.
the pessimist you are, you are now underplaying how bad it was for you before the surgery. you say you felt so bad that you would have been ok with some arthritis possibility. that means something.
also there is no snapping out of the possibility of doing LL once you hear about it and slowly get used to the gory details. so you would have effectively lived a major portion of your life in a 'suspended' mode if you hadn't done it. 'i might do LL next year so i will not pursue X'
this was the only way out (unless something magically good happened in your life).
Quote from: fokid on April 25, 2018, 07:58:41 PMkeep strong man.
the pessimist you are, you are now underplaying how bad it was for you before the surgery. you say you felt so bad that you would have been ok with some arthritis possibility. that means something.
also there is no snapping out of the possibility of doing LL once you hear about it and slowly get used to the gory details. so you would have effectively lived a major portion of your life in a 'suspended' mode if you hadn't done it. 'i might do LL next year so i will not pursue X'
this was the only way out (unless something magically good happened in your life).
Yes Funny how the mind works, One can accept the consequences prior LL, not having a clue of what it would really feel like, due to being clouded by height dysphoria. Then when the person really has to live with the negative consequence years after LL, this could most likely affect their views on their decision, even after deeming it necessary to reach goal “X” to live a fulfilling life. Dilemma for many LLers with a possibility of a never ending cycle of varying emotions, pessimism and optimism.
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