13 or 15cm safe

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Quote from: Hobbit on May 30, 2022, 05:56:42 AMDo you feel short in Australia?

I live in Melbourne (2nd largest city, over 5 million people), and honestly I can't generalise about how I feel as a whole, as it's dependent on a lot of things like demographics and location. I grew up in the western suburbs of my city, where the demographics are mainly southern Europeans, south east Asians and south Asians. Out of my friend group of around 10 people (18 yr old southern European males), a good 70% of us are within 170-178cm. In my high school (I went to a public, government funded school), most of the boys at age 18 were around my height or a bit taller, with 90% of them being under 6 foot. Most of them also had southern European backgrounds. Growing up during school, I did not feel short at all. Upon entering university in the city centre, I suddenly felt much shorter. Most of the European students are of British origin and are noticeably taller than I am. My university tends to have many Chinese international students too, who are slightly taller than I am.

When I go out in the western suburbs, I don't really feel short due to the demographics of the area. However when I travel to the city centre, go to places where youth from all demographics gather, then yes I feel shorter than average.

One thing to note is, for the past few years a majority of the immigrants have come from China, our city centre is majority populated by Chinese people now. This trend of majority Chinese migration is definitely going to continue for the near future, so you can expect the average height to possibly go down further here.

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Quote from: MK GoatKoza on May 30, 2022, 11:14:49 AMI live in Melbourne (2nd largest city, over 5 million people), and honestly I can't generalise about how I feel as a whole, as it's dependent on a lot of things like demographics and location. I grew up in the western suburbs of my city, where the demographics are mainly southern Europeans, south east Asians and south Asians. Out of my friend group of around 10 people (18 yr old southern European males), a good 70% of us are within 170-178cm. In my high school (I went to a public, government funded school), most of the boys at age 18 were around my height or a bit taller, with 90% of them being under 6 foot. Most of them also had southern European backgrounds. Growing up during school, I did not feel short at all. Upon entering university in the city centre, I suddenly felt much shorter. Most of the European students are of British origin and are noticeably taller than I am. My university tends to have many Chinese international students too, who are slightly taller than I am.

When I go out in the western suburbs, I don't really feel short due to the demographics of the area. However when I travel to the city centre, go to places where youth from all demographics gather, then yes I feel shorter than average.

One thing to note is, for the past few years a majority of the immigrants have come from China, our city centre is majority populated by Chinese people now. This trend of majority Chinese migration is definitely going to continue for the near future, so you can expect the average height to possibly go down further here.

I think there should be lots of people with Chinese background living in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. They are mostly Chinese, Taiwanese or Singaporean.

How tall do you think the Chinese men are near your area?  By average.

I think if they grew up in Australia, they could be taller than Chinese who came yo Australia when they were adults.

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That is very true. Asians that grew up in the west tend to be taller than asians that grew up in asia sadly.

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Quote from: zaozari on May 26, 2022, 10:48:50 PMYou really mean ''Below 1mm per day '' or over 1 mm per day? Over 1mm definitely is more violent for the tissues, no?

To digress for a while but I am really interested, are you a French? That 'no?' reminds me of 'non?' in Francais which is used for tag questions.

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Quote from: Hobbit on May 31, 2022, 03:53:39 AMThat is very true. Asians that grew up in the west tend to be taller than asians that grew up in asia sadly.

I am curious. Do you think probably foods in Western countries is the reason why Chinese born there are taller?

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Quote from: Hobbit on May 31, 2022, 03:53:39 AMThat is very true. Asians that grew up in the west tend to be taller than asians that grew up in asia sadly.

Yeah due to better environmental factors, but according to all of studies, in regard of genetic factor they are genetically shorter than most of White ethnic groups except like Sardinians.

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Quote from: ilovescience on May 31, 2022, 05:46:29 AMI am curious. Do you think probably foods in Western countries is the reason why Chinese born there are taller?

I can't figure out how to negate that speculation. In Western countries food is more healthy, safer, and cheaper. In China 地沟油 as I heard was once a very severe issue about food safety and China is also suffering from bad price inflations, not to mention I watched videos on Facebook where due to the lockdown China is stagnated in nearly all of aspects and will welcome a huge regression. I feel sorry for Deng Shiaoping(I don't know how to spell his name maybe I spell it correct or wrong), because The Reform and Open imported countless foreign capitals but now they are retrieving back due to the pandemic there.

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Quote from: TranslatingWithWriting on May 31, 2022, 06:35:31 AMI can't figure out how to negate that speculation. In Western countries food is more healthy, safer, and cheaper. In China 地沟油 as I heard was once a very severe issue about food safety and China is also suffering from bad price inflations, not to mention I watched videos on Facebook where due to the lockdown China is stagnated in nearly all of aspects and will welcome a huge regression. I feel sorry for Deng Shiaoping(I don't know how to spell his name maybe I spell it correct or wrong), because The Reform and Open imported countless foreign capitals but now they are retrieving back due to the pandemic there.

I'm not a supporter in anyway of the Chinese regimen but "China is stagnated" ??!! The economy grows not less than 6% and many times two digits each year and despite inequalities, hundreds of millions of people were taken away from starvation in the last decades. Even average height has augmented several centimetres in a genetation. Am I wrong??

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Quote from: zaozari on May 31, 2022, 09:18:52 AMI'm not a supporter in anyway of the Chinese regimen but "China is stagnated" ??!! The economy grows not less than 6% and many times two digits each year and despite inequalities, hundreds of millions of people were taken away from starvation in the last decades. Even average height has augmented several centimetres in a genetation. Am I wrong??

I mean during the pandemic China is stagnated. As far as I know, foreign capitals from various countries are retrieving from China in light of China's strict lockdown which is even negatively influencing Britain's import and export trades with China.
 
I was acknowledged from BBC News videos and never travelled to China so I don't know if I am wrong.

Of course China is all the time developing post WWII but I don't think after Xi President achieved the sovereignty of China, it is still 'raising up' to condescend upon the whole world.

As far as I am concerned Xi fabricated his education background certificates and he actually graduated from a primary school and I forgot its name. But he is very notorious to Taiwaneses and ready to set forces into Taiwan to re-control Taiwan.

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Quote from: TranslatingWithWriting on May 31, 2022, 06:35:31 AMI can't figure out how to negate that speculation. In Western countries food is more healthy, safer, and cheaper. In China 地沟油 as I heard was once a very severe issue about food safety and China is also suffering from bad price inflations, not to mention I watched videos on Facebook where due to the lockdown China is stagnated in nearly all of aspects and will welcome a huge regression. I feel sorry for Deng Shiaoping(I don't know how to spell his name maybe I spell it correct or wrong), because The Reform and Open imported countless foreign capitals but now they are retrieving back due to the pandemic there.

Or probably Western world foods contain more milk product, so Chinese kids who were born in US tend to be bigger than Chinese in Asia.