13 or 15cm safe

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Maybe it shouldn't be me to say again but it's "known" here and the mod welcomes questions. Yes, he did 7cm and now seems to regret a little and would have preferred to have done 5 cm. To have more physical dynamics and less specific problems as knee pain. It was done apparently in a good, big and specialized Chinese hospital as a full package and everything was done all the time there with well known competent doctors at that time, and still famous today, it seems. But China stopped doing CLL.

I would avoid Mahboubian, anyway, but it's just my opinion.

Another note: from my part you are very welcommed in the forum.

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why would you avoid Mahboubian? im not saying your wrong, just curious your reasoning. My #1 choice is definitely Paley however he is extremely expensive.

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Yes, it's crazy in here sometimes.  Something very important to remember on LL Forum...is that your current height is someone else's DREAM height.  So if we start talking about 5'8" or 5'10" being "short"...just think how that sounds to someone here who is 5 feet, 5'1" or 5'2".  It's all about your own self improvement, doesn't matter what you started with and how you ended, as long as YOU found an improved state of mind.

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Quote from: oklama on May 24, 2022, 03:06:43 AMwhy would you avoid Mahboubian? im not saying your wrong, just curious your reasoning. My #1 choice is definitely Paley however he is extremely expensive.

Mahboubian is a fantastic surgeon. He's an aggressive marketer, but I've never heard anything bad about him from patients. I'd get quadrilateral with him if I had the money (and that might be happening sometime in the next 6 months to a year).

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Quote from: zaozari on May 23, 2022, 08:51:24 PMI don’t understand very well this aspect of the forum when people just vent their judgement about other people's body and height when it's out of context and out of any meaningful contribution.
Of course it's different if we are discussing the case in terms of each one experience and its plans, objectives  frustrations, asks opinions about options of lenghtening amount , etc.
But just saying X cm is being short to a guy that will never be able to grow past the "personal" criteria of somebody about what should the ideal human being height. It is arrogant, even sounds a bit racist and is definitely not nice. We should support each other, people with heightism discrmination views only contribute to more individual discrimination and more suffering. I don't know what "heightists" come to do here . In my view they just don't have a place here unless we want a forum mainly dedicated to eugenism and body mechanics where short and "short" people are hurt and in a way almost insulted. Are we ready to decide and "tell" that somebody is fat, or is from a short height "race", with "bad genes".
Or maybe those guys are either already in a high degree of height neurosis or are just kids, still too young to not really know what they vent out their mouth.

Agreed. But not exclusive to Limbfan and Djambo.

I have seen for multiple times that random commenters under the posts curses the OP as midget manlet dwarf or much worse though this is LL forum where u can't see any really tall guys(if he is not crazy and not trolling).

This forum really needs to constrict this kind of humiliations.

We LLers are already suffering from judgemental society and I don't wanna be discriminated on LL forum as well

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Quote from: zaozari on May 23, 2022, 09:04:28 PMSorry to say like this but it's intended more like an eye opening, not an insult.
Why are you planning to possibly completely  f**k your body for going past 5,8"?!
And why on earth would you be saffer and "problem solved" in the USA compared to in Europe in developed countries?. Don't build illusion "legends".  If you need going from 5"8 to 5,10" it means you don't like yourself enough and need to solve that before taking (sorry) irresponsible decisions.
Take care of yourself. This is already a huge fight for each centimetre gain..Look at the example of the moderator, he regrets having done 7 cm instead of 5 cm....

He regrets? The last time I can remeber his recapitulation was that he ended up the procedures and now is moving on his own life with normal functions.

I think maybe too long recovery and painful procedures made him regret. Also he did the surgery in a third world country

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Quote from: zaozari on May 23, 2022, 11:38:40 PMMaybe it shouldn't be me to say again but it's "known" here and the mod welcomes questions. Yes, he did 7cm and now seems to regret a little and would have preferred to have done 5 cm. To have more physical dynamics and less specific problems as knee pain. It was done apparently in a good, big and specialized Chinese hospital as a full package and everything was done all the time there with well known competent doctors at that time, and still famous today, it seems. But China stopped doing CLL.

I would avoid Mahboubian, anyway, but it's just my opinion.

Another note: from my part you are very welcommed in the forum.

China does not stop doing CLL, just 'prohibitting', and it seems some surgeons are still doing it there.

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Quote from: TranslatingWithWriting on May 25, 2022, 05:46:29 PMHe regrets? The last time I can remeber his recapitulation was that he ended up the procedures and now is moving on his own life with normal functions.

I think maybe too long recovery and painful procedures made him regret. Also he did the surgery in a third world country

Yes, he regrets the last 2/2,5 cm. He wishes he had stopped at 5 cm.
Fortunately, he feels fine overall anyway. But just read,  he explains why very well. Your wishful memory has only selected the better. I won't talk about this here anyore, it should be his own words if he so wants to use his time and tell it again.

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Quote from: TranslatingWithWriting on May 25, 2022, 06:16:04 PMChina does not stop doing CLL, just 'prohibitting', and it seems some surgeons are still doing it there.

So you mean it's still done but illegally, maybe in small garages, or so?! Is there are any suggestion implied, also?! How much does it cost?

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Quote from: zaozari on May 25, 2022, 06:25:26 PMSo you mean it's still done but illegally, maybe in small garages, or so?! Is there are any suggestion implied, also?! How much does it cost?

Yeah but as far as I am concerned, a doctor named Ruan Yude fleed China to Vietnam and continues his own career but I heard bad news from him about his awful facilities and illegal operations from a female patient who got infected on her knees and his teacher is Bai Helong, who is also conducting CLL in the Northwest China.