13 or 15cm safe

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Quote from: Hobbit on May 26, 2022, 07:12:39 PMHopefully 8cm femur + 5cm tibia is safe if not i’ll be so depressed 

of course you are likely to get it but you gotta also be mindful of your own endure, time, money and recovery. I said it did not solely depend on your money.

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Quote from: ilovescience on May 25, 2022, 08:05:02 PMI don't know if it has to do with visual effect.

When I approached someone same as my height, if that person is strong or bulk up, I feel he is an inch taller than me.
If he os skinny, I feel like about the same or I am a little taller.

Did you feel the same thing when approaching your friends same as your height?

I feel bigger than almost everyone I meet; the only exceptions are if they're 6+ inches taller and have 30+ lbs of lean mass on me.

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Quote from: djimbo9 on May 25, 2022, 08:01:56 PMDamn... you're ONLY 2 inches shorter than the AVERAGE guy?... I guess that makes you anything but short...

Correct, 1.5-2 inches is pretty tiny. I don't know why you'd think that deficit would make someone "short.

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Quote from: djimbo9 on May 25, 2022, 07:50:04 PMAgain I'll be extremely realistic and I'll say my head is messed up because of my insecurities, sure, I'm not going to try and delude myself like some guys on this thread. Anything below 5ft10 is short and you all know it, I know it hurts but again, deal with it. I'm wearing tall shoes, no insoles, I get to 5ft10 with those and I still feel very short in a country with a 5ft8 average. Don't go nuclear on me, it's not my fault we've all got messed up genetics. If you deny that then why are you here? Go be happy being 5ft8 and below just because the average in some Asian country is 5ft or whatever.

''I'm not going to try and delude myself like some guys on this thread''
With your height and saying this, thinking its the others who are deluding themselves here, you really have more important problems than height: since it's not probably brain sinapses or volume,...wake up, man, go on with your life, find a girl, be happy!

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Quote from: djimbo9 on May 25, 2022, 08:19:56 PMWe can end the pointless discussion and each to their own. I'm gonna take my chance to ask, what are the reasons behind people not doing 10cm femurs? I've seen a guy do it with Betz but all other diaries are like 7-8cm max. IMO, if you're going to pay that much money and go through all that pain and isolation, why not max it out? But then again, this is why I'm asking, there's obviously a reason behind it. I doubt a person doing 8cm wouldn't do 10 if he knew it'd be safe. Is aesthetics the issue then? Or loss of athleticism? Or an increased chance of an injury? I don't care about the first two but the last one is obviously a deal breaker if that's the case.

''if you're going to pay that much money and go through all that pain and isolation, why not max it out?''
Because you get with ridiculous proportions specially if you don't do a mock picture and try several simulated postions, and don't go also for tibias, risking even more... At least that's what a guy that did 10cm in femurs said here in the forum: when he seats in a chair he gets totally weird. When you are in shorts you get your knees ridiculous close to the floor. You can't speak of legs and body like meat or a piece of furniture.

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Quote from: ReadRothbard on May 26, 2022, 09:06:22 PMCorrect, 1.5-2 inches is pretty tiny. I don't know why you'd think that deficit would make someone "short.

Excuse me 1 inch = 2.5cm right? I think 5cm is obvious, but as for under 5cm, then yeah it's neglectable.

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Quote from: AimHigh on May 26, 2022, 01:24:41 AMBelow 1mm per day it is not the bone but rather soft tissue that limits lengthening, immediately post op your femur resembles a large smooth sausage due to swelling, and your knee flexion is lucky to reach 90 degrees,  you must wait at least 4 days for this swelling to subside before lengthening can begin , the next 2-3 weeks are not to bad (only bone growth rate of 1 mm per day is limiting factor) as the femur muscles/fascia and tendons are not under great tension, but then they become the limiting factor as their elastic limits are reached and you enter the painful tearing/ plastic deformation stage.
I was very flexible (pre CLL  at 49 YO had a -21 cm sit reach test), but yes my age (55 now) definitely makes my muscles/tendons more limiting and tighter than a younger person undergoing LL.

You really mean ''Below 1mm per day '' or over 1 mm per day? Over 1mm definitely is more violent for the tissues, no?

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Quote from: informationispower on May 26, 2022, 10:40:08 AMTibs/fems ratio in my opinion is not so important as we are talking about bones that are 30-45cm long. Every single cm to either the tibs or fems change the ratio (numerically ) by a lot. Basically, every cm beyong 2cm to either will get you out of the normal range. In my opinion legs to upper body and arm length  (which usually correlates with torso length) are the most important factors... look on youtube a "short" posted by mahboubian of a guy who lengthened 8cm on femurs..  he looks horrible

Femurs are already really long bones and they seem even longer because they are directly atached to volumous tissue of tights and glutes and the clothes reinforce this visual effect. A huge amount in femurs aesthetically is worse than in tibias, usually, specially in very short guys, who have already, not only in numeric terms but also relatively short tibias. They would seem really ''mini short'' without big insoles.

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When consistently lengthening above 1mm per day there is a high risk that osteogenesis (bone growth) might cease (and therefore is the limiting factor) , I think in the first few cm that soft tissue is not too stressed and maybe lengthened beyond 1mm per day but the  bone growth limits distraction to ~ 1mm/day.

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After 8cm CLL I now have a 54 cm long femur, and that is typical for a 6 2 person, however i only have the reach of a 5 9 person, I notice when driving that I am less comfortable as I have to push my seat further back and my knees almost rest on the front dash (I hate to think what would happen to my kneecaps in case of an accident), whilst my arms are more extended and shoulders more hunched forward to reach the steering wheel.
I also notice airplane/bus/train/movie seats are much tighter for me, not much fun as Australians typically travel long haul to visit other countries - basically I am realising the world is built for an average (maybe 5 10?) person.