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Posted on Feb 18, 2014, 10:02 am
#21

Crazy+6 did 17cm.

I did 7cm and my body and life is totally ruined. My ankles are destroyed and I hate my life.
Some days I think of ending it. There is no spark anymore.

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Posted on Feb 18, 2014, 10:06 am
#22

I thought 10 cm tibial lengthening was possible because it was listed in Dr.Xia's LON package and how he stated that it is possible to lengthen 10cm.
But after doing more research and emailing CLL doctors, I then realized how delusional I was.
For normal adults considering CLL, restrict yourselves to max 6cm femur and 5 cm tibias.

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Posted on Feb 18, 2014, 10:09 am
#23

According to my x-ray I did 5.2, but, I think its reasonable to think I actually got a little less.

When I was in the guesthouse I was asked over and over if I regretted not doing more. Pretty common to hear stuff like "Why come all this way and only do 5". At the time I did sometimes think maybe I f**ked up when I took my frames off and I should have done more.

Since actually starting walking and trying to function in day to day life I am so so thankful that I did 5cm instead of more [god forbid doing 10cm on tibias?]. The toll this takes on your legs is just absolutely disgusting and I am not surprised the vast vast majority of people who do this surgery never post on the forum again.

The videos people post are a huge misrepresentation of the patients day to day life and the comments that follow are so ignorant if it wasn't so sad it'd be hilarious. I consider myself thoroughly disabled currently yet I have only seen two patients (smallguy and blackbear after his first surgery) do things that I can not do. So I am going to assume that everyone else who posts videos struggle day to day just as much as me, some of whom are years post surgery. Doing an extra 2cm prolongs recovery exponentially perhaps permanently.

After consulting with an Australian doctor overall I do regret doing this. In his opinion I will never squat or dead lift at anywhere near my previous level. My knee pain will not subside and currently I can't even do an unweighted leg extension with my right leg. Ironically I think the knee pain has nothing to do with how much you lengthen but just the rod being put in. I asked the doc if taking the rods out would solve the pain and he said it's just as likely to exacerbate it. Extremely nervous for my rod removal and the months that follow as it could be either help with the issues or be the beginnings of a lifetime of chronic pain that will severely detract from my quality of life. I have an array of other issues but are more short-medium term in nature which undoubtedly would have worsened had I lengthened more.

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Posted on Feb 18, 2014, 3:42 pm
#24

Quote from: Russianblues on February 18, 2014, 10:09:43 AMAfter consulting with an Australian doctor overall I do regret doing this. In his opinion I will never squat or dead lift at anywhere near my previous level. My knee pain will not subside and currently I can't even do an unweighted leg extension with my right leg. Ironically I think the knee pain has nothing to do with how much you lengthen but just the rod being put in. I asked the doc if taking the rods out would solve the pain and he said it's just as likely to exacerbate it. Extremely nervous for my rod removal and the months that follow as it could be either help with the issues or be the beginnings of a lifetime of chronic pain that will severely detract from my quality of life. I have an array of other issues but are more short-medium term in nature which undoubtedly would have worsened had I lengthened more.


I concur with this doctor's opinion.  I was hoping the nail removal would improve my knee pain but it did not.

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Posted on Feb 18, 2014, 3:56 pm
#25

I am starting to lose faith in the LON/LATN method. The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm

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Posted on Feb 18, 2014, 4:30 pm
#26

Quote from: Sweden on February 18, 2014, 10:02:10 AMCrazy+6 did 17cm.

I did 7cm and my body and life is totally ruined. My ankles are destroyed and I hate my life.
Some days I think of ending it. There is no spark anymore.


Hey Sweden, I understand your professional karate career is over, which doesn't surprise me because of how extensive this surgery is, but can you walk still?

And for all the young kids like me reading your post, what would you have done differently? Thank you, and I wish you the best of luck in recovery!

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Posted on Feb 18, 2014, 6:49 pm
#27

Taekwondo.

It's not about that. At all.

Today I can't even walk normal. I don't know what happened. In December I was out running and jump kicking and feeling great about myself.

Now for some reason my ankles hurt insanely much. A life without even walking is totally worthless.

I would not have done LL if I knew this. No way! I hate my life now. My life was truly fantastic before LL.

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Posted on Feb 18, 2014, 7:04 pm
#28

Hey Russianblues,

How thoroughly did your doc in Australia evaluate your legs? Did he say the lengthening was performed correctly and that your legs are anatomically intact and such things? I'll be doing the same as you the moment I get home and going to a doc to be evaluated for he damage done (maybe after I first get on my knees and kiss the beloved ground I took so much for granted). I'm even considering electrotherapy to rid my mind of the sights of India  The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm.  I had an x-ray on Tuesday and got 4.6cm and 4.7cm. I want to end up with just 5cm as well but, as you know, there is no way of being sure with these x-rays. I feel like I need to go to 6cm to be certain for 5.....

It sucks that  you're having the knee issues. Mine seem to be fine; I can get full range of motion on both with relative ease in the frames, but I have my toe that might never function again..... Glad to hear you've gotten home intact. It seems you and Sweden didn't find Thailand to be too appealing. Don't say I didn't try to warn you, bud.  The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm Come on skype when you have free time.

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Posted on Feb 18, 2014, 7:08 pm
#29

Have you asked your doctor about that? I think that it isnt normal that you have been welll and know you cant walk. Have you gone to any doctor? What did the say?

Quote from: Sweden on February 18, 2014, 06:49:11 PMTaekwondo.

It's not about that. At all.

Today I can't even walk normal. I don't know what happened. In December I was out running and jump kicking and feeling great about myself.

Now for some reason my ankles hurt insanely much. A life without even walking is totally worthless.

I would not have done LL if I knew this. No way! I hate my life now. My life was truly fantastic before LL.

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Posted on Feb 18, 2014, 7:09 pm
#30

Quote from: Sweden on February 18, 2014, 06:49:11 PMTaekwondo.

It's not about that. At all.

Today I can't even walk normal. I don't know what happened. In December I was out running and jump kicking and feeling great about myself.

Now for some reason my ankles hurt insanely much. A life without even walking is totally worthless.

I would not have done LL if I knew this. No way! I hate my life now. My life was truly fantastic before LL.


The only thing I can think of is that a screw might be loose in one or both of your ankles? Why don't you get an x ray?

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