The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm

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Quote from: Sweden on February 18, 2014, 10:02:10 AMCrazy+6 did 17cm.

I did 7cm and my body and life is totally ruined. My ankles are destroyed and I hate my life.
Some days I think of ending it. There is no spark anymore.

Jeezuz.. I used to read your posts and think 3 inches is nothing for this guy, he has taken so much lengthening and even showed us a video of his performing a human flag - I think i should be fine if i do 3 inch femurs and 2 inch tibie but now.. I'm scared as hell.. I'm only 5'4 and thought i could nicely reach 5'7 or 5'8 (even 5'9) which i'm more than happy for but reading all this.. I wish Limb Lengthening was perfected and people could do it properly without these heinous consequences.

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Quote from: onedayillgrow on February 18, 2014, 08:11:52 PMJeezuz.. I used to read your posts and think 3 inches is nothing for this guy, he has taken so much lengthening and even showed us a video of his performing a human flag - I think i should be fine if i do 3 inch femurs and 2 inch tibie but now.. I'm scared as hell.. I'm only 5'4 and thought i could nicely reach 5'7 or 5'8 (even 5'9) which i'm more than happy for but reading all this.. I wish Limb Lengthening was perfected and people could do it properly without these heinous consequences.

I wish that too, but keep in mind it's major surgery and no surgeon has perfected any type of major surgery.  LL is a big deal with big risks involved.  That's why most doctors won't even do CLL.

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There is a common denominator for all the people having issues after LL: externals

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Quote from: kusop on February 18, 2014, 11:53:47 PMThere is a common denominator for all the people having issues after LL: externals

Have you heard of a patient named Amatan... Or Apotheosis for that matter? One had a non-lengthening precise, the other had a "weight-bearing" betzbone nail break, then had a non-union.

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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on February 18, 2014, 11:48:32 PMI wish that too, but keep in mind it's major surgery and no surgeon has perfected any type of major surgery.  LL is a big deal with big risks involved.  That's why most doctors won't even do CLL.

What would you say are the biggest risks in Cosmetic Limb Lengthening? I mean could you categorically list all the MAJOR consequences of Limb Lengthening surgery? And are these risks present if someone got 5cm on Tibiae and then a few years later got 5cm on femurs?

Also if you could do it over again MDoW, which would you have done first? Tibiae or Femurs?

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Quote from: kusop on February 18, 2014, 11:53:47 PMThere is a common denominator for all the people having issues after LL: externals

Another common denominator:   malfunction of internal devices and internals rods breaking.     

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Quote from: Tall on February 19, 2014, 01:36:17 AMHave you heard of a patient named Amatan... Or Apotheosis for that matter? One had a non-lengthening precise, the other had a "weight-bearing" betzbone nail break, then had a non-union.

we are talking about permanent or long-term complications. Not technical issues with the hardware.

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Quote from: orlandoflorida on February 19, 2014, 01:57:38 PMAnother common denominator:   malfunction of internal devices and internals rods breaking.     

Ok everyone. Without letting this get out of hand. I thought the topic was long-term / permanent complications with the BODY not the hardware. Yes amatans precice malfunctioned, but that is fixed. it doesnt mean he is going to have long tern knee issues or ankle issues.
Same with all the betz nail bending or breaking. They get titanium replacement and they are back dancing (andrew) and skiing (oldie).

But in external patients case, alot have long term problems with their body. All the people who reported it in this thread did, externals no?

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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on February 18, 2014, 03:42:14 PMI concur with this doctor's opinion.  I was hoping the nail removal would improve my knee pain but it did not.

so after 7 years, you still have knee pain caused by LL?

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Rod inserted inside tibia bone = permanent knee pain.

It can happen whether you do internals or external.